18_100754_ General 1946-7_Vol_2

HqAMC Form No. 10-514 (Rev 10 Sep 46) IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO COMMANDING GENERAL, AIR MATERIEL COMMAND, ATTENTION FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSDIN SECRET HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND DECLASSIFIED Authority: NND 700188 WF-L-7 JAN 47 300M SAVE CONSERVATION PP TSDIN/HMM/ig/6-4100 WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO DEC 1 9 1947 SUBJECT: Flying Discs TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Director, Research & Development Major General L. C. Craigie 1. Confirming the recent conversation of the undersigned with Major General L. C. Craigie, 9 December 1947, attached as listed below are copies of the reports from this Headquarters concerning Flying Discs. 2. Comments of Headquarters, Air Force on these letters have never been received by this Command. Continued and recent reports from qualified observers concerning this phenomenon still makes this matter one of concern to Headquarters, Air Materiel Command. Intelli- gence Department of this Command is continuing the collection and analysis of all available reports. 2 Attach: FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: cc ltr to CG, AAF, dtd 23 Sept 47 subj "AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"" cc ltr to CG, AAF, dtd 24 Sept 47 subj "Flying Discs" Hm m Coy H. M. MCCOY Colonel, USAF Chief of Intelligence SECRET U-53791 DATE: 22 Dec 47 FROM: OIN SUSPENSE DATE: NO.: 244391 FILE DESIGNATION AND DATE: TYPE: R&R/1 SMRY: "Analysis of 'Flying Diso' Reports". 2 incls. 11 P 97084 TO: MRD DATE: 24 Dec 47 TO: Memo to AUC Attn: TSDIN DATE: 30 1947 TO: DATE: TO: DATE: REPLIED OR INDORSED TO: FILED (PLACE): OTHER ACTION: HQ AAF SECRET Col Cook/2497/bm AFMRS SUBJECT: Flying Discs 30 December 1947 TO: Commanding General Air Materiel Command Wright Field, Dayton, Chief of Intelligence SECRET U-53791 DATE: 22 Dec 47 FROM: OIN SUSPENSE DATE: NO.: 244391 FILE DESIGNATION AND DATE: TYPE: R&R/1 SMRY: "Analysis of 'Flying Diso' Reports". 2 incls. 11 P 97084 TO: MRD DATE: 24 Dec 47 TO: Memo to AUC Attn: TSDIN DATE: 30 1947 TO: DATE: TO: DATE: REPLIED OR INDORSED TO: FILED (PLACE): OTHER ACTION: HQ AAF SECRET Col Cook/2497/bm AFMRS SUBJECT: Flying Discs 30 December 1947 TO: Commanding General Air Materiel Command Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio Attn: TSDIN 1. Reference is made to three inclosures, memoranda from your office to this headquarters, subject as above. 2. It is Air Force policy not to ignore reports of sightings and phenomena in the atmosphere but to recognise that part of its mission is to collect, collate, evaluate and act on information of this nature. 3. In implementing this policy, it is desired that the Air Materiel Command set up a project whose purpose is to collect, collate, evaluate and distribute to interested government agencies and contractors all information concerning sightings and phenomena in the atmosphere which can be construed to be of concern to the national security. It is desired that appropriate recommendations be forwarded to this Headquarters, wherever action is indicated which falls outside the field of the Air Materiel Command. 4. It is suggested that the activities of this project include the preparation and distribution of an initial report, as recommended in Inclosure 1, and that subsequent reports be issued on a quarterly basis. Supplementary reports should be issued at more frequent inter- vals should the need for same be indicated. This project is assigned priority 24, with a security classification of "restricted" and Code Name of "SION". Where data of a classification higher than restricted is handled by the project such data should be classified accordingly. A complete interchange of data should be effected as recommended in Inclosure 1. BY GOMMAND OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF: P 97084 Incle 1. Memo dtd 23 Sept '47 from AMC to AC/AS-2 (Gen Schulsen) OFFICE SYMBOL GRADE AND SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS 2. This project is assigned priority 24, with a security classification of "restricted" and Code Name of "SION". Where data of a classification higher than restricted is handled by the project such data should be classified accordingly. A complete interchange of data should be effected as recommended in Inclosure 1. BY GOMMAND OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF: P 97084 Incle 1. Memo dtd 23 Sept '47 from AMC to AC/AS-2 (Gen Schulsen) OFFICE SYMBOL GRADE AND SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS 2. Memo dtd 24 Sept '47 AFMRS From ANC to AC (Gen McDonald) 3. Memo dtd 12 Dec '47 to Gen Craigie 4. R&R from Dir of Intell, w/ SECRET L. C. CRAIGIE Major General, U. S. Air Force Director of Research and Development Office, Deputy Chief of Staff, Materiel AFOTN Miwonald (AFURD) AFSPR CAFMRD AFOPO Weyland by fiden RE-20249-2 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE AFOIR-CO/Col Garrett/lwd/4544 18 Dec '47 CONFIDENTIAL 12/2 Basic ltr fr Hq. Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Fld, Calif., dated 5 Dec '47, subject: Flying Disc. AFOIR-00-5 1st Ind. Dept. of the Air Force, Hq. USAF, Washington 25, D. C. 22 DEC 1947 TO: Commanding General, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California 1062 1. The marks appearing on the photographs inclosed in basic letter are believed to be defects in the film, paper, or camera and not pictures of "flying discs". 2. It is requested that no further investigation be made of this incident. FOR THE CHIEF OF STAFF: Incls. n/c DOUGLASS W. BISEMAN Lt. Colonel, U.S.A.F, Executive, Air Intelligence Requirements Div. Directorate of Intelligence Boo.7 Huying bices File ref: 0 OFFICE SYMBOL GRADE AND SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS HQ. AAF 22 DEC 1947 AAC MAIL BRANCH 1177846 B/L fr Hq. Fourth basic letter are believed to be defects in the film, paper, or camera and not pictures of "flying discs". 2. It is requested that no further investigation be made of this incident. FOR THE CHIEF OF STAFF: Incls. n/c DOUGLASS W. BISEMAN Lt. Colonel, U.S.A.F, Executive, Air Intelligence Requirements Div. Directorate of Intelligence Boo.7 Huying bices File ref: 0 OFFICE SYMBOL GRADE AND SURNAME OF COORDINATING OFFICERS HQ. AAF 22 DEC 1947 AAC MAIL BRANCH 1177846 B/L fr Hq. Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Fld, Calif. dated 5 Dec '47 subj: as above l. AFOIR-CO Col Taylor 2. AFOIR Reseman 3. 5. Col Garrett C. P. CABELL Ag. Gen., USA 4. 16-29242-2 U. S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE ATES Dec 47 CONFIDENTIAL FROMamilton Fld, Calif TYPE: Ltr SMRY: Flying Disc Mary L Herren 3 Incls: TO: DATE: OCI 10 Dec 47 TO: AFOIR-CO DATE: 10 Dec 47 $USPENSE DATE: NO.: 242134 FILE DESIGNATION AND DATE: 1177846 TO: TH DATE: 12/22/47 TO: DATE: REPLIED OR INDORSED TO: FILED (PLACE): OTHER ACTION: HQ AAF CONFIDENTIAL HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2 Intelligence Hamilton Field, California 4AFDA-3/1208-1 SUBJECT: Flying Disc. TO: Chief of Staff DEC 5 1947 United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTN: Director of Intelligence X 201-100a 1. The attached photographs were forwarded to this office by a very reliable source of information, obtained from a Mary L. Herren, 1728 S. W. Bidwell Avenue, Portland 2, Oregon. She advises these photographs were taken some time between November 5th and 12th, 1946, in the vicinity of Jefferson, Oregon, and points out the formation in the photographs as being objects she did not recall seeing herself but she thought might possibly D. C. ATTN: Director of Intelligence X 201-100a 1. The attached photographs were forwarded to this office by a very reliable source of information, obtained from a Mary L. Herren, 1728 S. W. Bidwell Avenue, Portland 2, Oregon. She advises these photographs were taken some time between November 5th and 12th, 1946, in the vicinity of Jefferson, Oregon, and points out the formation in the photographs as being objects she did not recall seeing herself but she thought might possibly be flying discs. 2. The objects referred to appear in the sky area of each accompanying photograph. The uniformity of the markings would tend to indicate that the camera or film used to take these pictures was possibly defective. No incidents of flying discs have been reported from that vicinity on or about the inclusive dates named above. 3. Mrs. Herren has requested the return of the negatives. If desired, this office will obtain the negatives and forward them at your request. 3 Incls: Photographs. DONALD L. SPRINGER Lt. Colonel, USAF AC of S, A-2 RECEIVED CONFIDENTIAL HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO ATTENTION OF FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSNAD-2B SUBJECT: TSNAD-2B/ACL/amb WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO 18 NOV 1947 11-145- Flying Discs TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Office, Director of Intelligence Lt Colonel George Garrett, Jr. 1. The inclosed newspaper clippings are submitted for your informa- tion and comment. The incident reported in Seattle appeared in the "Dayton Journal" on 12 November 1947, and should be followed up if possible. 2. The story by Lionel Shapiro regarding war weapons developed in Spain evidently was printed in a number of leading newspapers throughout the country. The significance of this article will be dependent upon cer- tain essential elements for such alleged important developments, such as funds, materials, experimental testing facilities, and technological "know-how". The latter is supposed to be supplied by German scientists. The German scientists at this Hq indicate that no important scientists from Germany are working in Spain, and those mentioned in this article are not war weapons developed in Spain evidently was printed in a number of leading newspapers throughout the country. The significance of this article will be dependent upon cer- tain essential elements for such alleged important developments, such as funds, materials, experimental testing facilities, and technological "know-how". The latter is supposed to be supplied by German scientists. The German scientists at this Hq indicate that no important scientists from Germany are working in Spain, and those mentioned in this article are not known to them. 3. If possible, therefore, an effort should be made to obtain names, qualifications, or any information that might help to identify the alleged German scientists working in Spain. 4. A brief statement was made in a recent intelligence report from Hq, USAF, AC/AS-2, regarding a flying disc incident in Alaska in September. The close range sighting reported should render a more detailed observation than what was reported, which also suggests a follow-up. 5. It is further requested that this office be advised as to progress being made on the plotting of all flying disc incidents to date, particu- larly in North America. It was understood that Dr. Carroll was going to plot these incidents, but no further word was received regarding this ef- fort. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: File CD GARRETT TV Lt Col USAF inc! newspaper clippings H. M. MCCOY Colonel, Air Corps Chief of Intelligence SECRET HqAMC Form No. 10-514 (Rev. 1 Aug 45) VISARMY SAVE UNSVATIONTPEO CONFIDENTIAL IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO ATTENTION OF FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSNAD-2B HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND SUBJECT: Flying Discs TO: Chief of Staff OIR TSNAD-2B/ACL/amb WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO 24 NOV 1947 12.8 FOR VICTORY BUY UNITED TATES WAR BONDS AND STAMPS United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Office, Director of Intelligence Lt Colonel George Garrett, Jr. Reference letter, subject as above, dated 18 November 1947, it is requested that immediate action be taken to appropriately mark or stamp this correspondence with the classification "secret". This classifica- tion number is as follows: U-48983 FOR THE COMMANDING TO: Chief of Staff OIR TSNAD-2B/ACL/amb WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO 24 NOV 1947 12.8 FOR VICTORY BUY UNITED TATES WAR BONDS AND STAMPS United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Office, Director of Intelligence Lt Colonel George Garrett, Jr. Reference letter, subject as above, dated 18 November 1947, it is requested that immediate action be taken to appropriately mark or stamp this correspondence with the classification "secret". This classifica- tion number is as follows: U-48983 FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: Awl-tat To O/I Files action OIR-CO tion complicell Io Col Jarret- 12-10-47 H. M. MCCOY Colonel, USAF Chief of Intelligence WF-L-29 APR 46 300M -CONFIDENTIAL 0009 Phenomena Hai Font No. 10-514 (Rev 1,0 Sep 46) SECRET HEADQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND WF-L-7 JAN 47 300M IN REPLY ADDRESS BOTH COMMUNICATION AND EN- VELOPE TO COMMANDING GENERAL, AIR MATERIEL COMMAND, ATTENTION FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: TSDIN TSDIN/HMM/ig/6-4100 WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO SEP 2 3 1947 SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs" TO: Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen AC/AS-2 1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this Command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs". This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineer- ing Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3. 2. It is the opinion that: a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious. b. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineer- ing Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3. 2. It is the opinion that: a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious. b. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft. c. There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors. d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly air- craft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely. e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:- (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. Jucl #2 SECRET U-39552 SECRET Basic Ltr fr CG, AMC, WF to CG, AAF, Wash. D. C. subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs". (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high perfor- mance conditions. (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top. (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects. (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted. (6) Level flight speeds normally above 300 knots are esti- mated. f. It is possible within the present U. S. knowledge -- pro- vided extensive detailed development is undertaken -- to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7000 miles at subsonic speeds. g. Any developments in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable ex- pense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up in- dependently of existing projects. h. Due consideration must be given the following:- (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin the description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7000 miles at subsonic speeds. g. Any developments in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable ex- pense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up in- dependently of existing projects. h. Due consideration must be given the following:- (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or this Command. (2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the existence of these objects. (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic knowledge. 3. It is recommended that:- a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and Code Name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investi- SECRET -2- U-39552 SECRET Basic Ltr fr CG, AMC, WF to CG, AAF, Wash. D.C. subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs" gation develops. A complete interchange of data should be effected. 4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investi- gation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels. ning N. F. TWINING Lieutenant General, U.S.A. Commanding SECRET -3- U-39552 TSDIN SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs" TO: Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen AC/AS-2 TSDIN/HMM/ig/6-4100 23 September 1947 1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of gation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels. ning N. F. TWINING Lieutenant General, U.S.A. Commanding SECRET -3- U-39552 TSDIN SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs" TO: Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen AC/AS-2 TSDIN/HMM/ig/6-4100 23 September 1947 1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this Command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs". This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineer- ing Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3. 2. It is the opinion that: a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious. b. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft. c. There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors. d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly air- craft and radar, land belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely. e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows: (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. Incl. # SECRET U-39552 SECRET Basic Ltr fr CO, AMC, WP to CO, AAP, Wash. D.C. subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs". (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high perfor- mance conditions. (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top. (14) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects. objects is as follows: (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. Incl. # SECRET U-39552 SECRET Basic Ltr fr CO, AMC, WP to CO, AAP, Wash. D.C. subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs". (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high perfor- mance conditions. (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top. (14) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects. (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted. (6) Level flight speeds normally above 300 knots are esti- mated. f. It is possible within the present U. S. knowledge -- pro- vided extensive detailed development is undertaken -- to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7000 miles at subsonic speeds. g. Any developments in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable ex- pense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up in- dependently of existing projects. h. Due consideration must be given the following:- (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or this Command. (2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the existance of these objects. (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic knowledge. 3. It is recommended that:- a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and Code Name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investi- SECRET U-39552 COPY Basic Ltr fr CG, AMC, WF to CG, include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investi- SECRET U-39552 COPY Basic Ltr fr CG, AMC, WF to CG, AAF, Wash. D.C. Subj "AMC Opinion Con- cerning "Flying Discs" gation develope. A complete interchange of data should be effected. 4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investi- gation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the pehnomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels. N. F. TWINING Lieutenant General, U.S.A. Commanding This letter was coordinated by: Col. Moore - Ch. Airclys Lab Mr. D.A Dicky - Ch Propeller Lab Gen D.L. Putt - Engr Div Col. Minty - Ch Power Plant Lab Gen Brentnall - T.S. SECRET COPY U-39552 TSNAD-2B Jacl SECRET COPY TSNAD-2B/ACL:eec 24 September 1947 SUBJECT: "Flying Disc" TO: 1. Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D. C. ATTN: AC/AS-2 Major General George McDora ld In compliance with General McDonald's telephone conversa- tion, this date, to Colonel H. M. McCoy, T-2, Hq. AMC, attached herewith is a copy of a drawing entitled, "Loedding Flying Disc", designated LD-2. Because of patent rights involved, it is reques- ted that a record be kept of all persons reviewing this drawing by witnessing with signatures and dates directly on the drawing. 2. This drawing should be returned to this office when it has served its purpose so that it can be turned over to the Patent Office Hq. AMC for official record. fficial record. Airplanes. muc 3. Inclosed herewith is also a report prepared by the Royal Aircraft Establishment, Technical Note, AERO 1703, which describes the Horten tailless aircraft. ted that a record be kept of all persons reviewing this drawing by witnessing with signatures and dates directly on the drawing. 2. This drawing should be returned to this office when it has served its purpose so that it can be turned over to the Patent Office Hq. AMC for official record. fficial record. Airplanes. muc 3. Inclosed herewith is also a report prepared by the Royal Aircraft Establishment, Technical Note, AERO 1703, which describes the Horten tailless aircraft. The following references are invited which is considered significant in relating the Horten brothers per- spective thinking and accomplishments toward the alleged "Flying Saucer" case: a. Page 5, Paragraph 4 and 6. b. Page 6, Paragraph 1 and 7. C. Page 26, Paragraph 3 and 10. d. Page 27, Paragraph 12. e. Page 26, Paragraphs 1 through 5. f. Page 54, Photograph of Horten "Parabola". SECRET COPY U-39942 SECRET COPY Basic ltr, dtd 24 Sep 47, to CG, Hq AAF, Wash, subj: "Flying Disc" g. Page 69, The Horten VIII. h. Pages 71 and 72, Photographs of the Horten IX Versions. i. Page 74, Drawing of the "Parabola". This document should also be returned when it has served its intended purpose. X452.1 Airplanes - Russia 4. A recent report from the U. S. Military athache, Moscow, USSR, dated 9 June 1947, indicates that 1800 aircraft, directly or indirectly based on the Horten VIII design (six engine pusher, having a wing spread of 131 feet and a gross weight of approximately thirty-three thousand pounds) are being built for bomber squadron use. The Russian version, however, is jet propelled, reference report whose identification No. is V-32291-8. X095 5. The T-2 report "German Flying Wings Designed by Horten Brothers", No. F-SU-1110-Nd, also inclosed herewith, may be retained by your office if desired. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: 3 Incls: 1. Drawing 2. RAE Tech Note, AERO 1703 3. T-2 Rpt, No. having a wing spread of 131 feet and a gross weight of approximately thirty-three thousand pounds) are being built for bomber squadron use. The Russian version, however, is jet propelled, reference report whose identification No. is V-32291-8. X095 5. The T-2 report "German Flying Wings Designed by Horten Brothers", No. F-SU-1110-Nd, also inclosed herewith, may be retained by your office if desired. FOR THE COMMANDING GENERAL: 3 Incls: 1. Drawing 2. RAE Tech Note, AERO 1703 3. T-2 Rpt, No. F-SU-1110-ND } H. M. McCOY Colonel, Air Corps Deputy Commanding General Intelligence (T-2) Enclosure mailed with Original letter Apl 47 Goodwin SECRET COPY U-39942 TORM NO. MR-1 (2) DATE: 452.1 Aircraft - Mise. INDEX: 0009 Flying Saucer - Phenomena TO: CSGID, Plans and Collection Bra ch FROM: Chief, Air Intelligence Requirements Division, AC/S-2 SUMMARY: Intelligence Requirements on Flying Saucer Type Aircraft D/F FILED: 350.09 Intelligence INDEXER: C REMARKS: Re: German scientists 30 Oct 47 HEADQUARTERS ARMY AIR FORCES CORRESPONDENCE REFERENCE FORM CONFIDENTIAL RESTRICTED Wrtn 22 Oct 1947 B/L fm AMC, Subj: "Flying Dises", dtd 13 Cot 47 Lt Col Garrett/dl/4544 AFBIR-CO-8 1st Ind AFBIR-CO-5 28 OCT 1947 Dept. of the Air Force, Hq., USAF, Washington 25, D. C. To: Commanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright Field, Ohio (Attention: T-2) 1. A representative of this headquarters has contacted Lt. Colonel Herbert C. Cee concerning Mrs. Merchant's theory on the flying dises, as expressed to General Brentnall. 2. It is recommended that no action be taken to interrogate Mrs. Merchant and that this case be closed. BY ORDER OF THE SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE: Incls - n/c HQ AAF 8 8 OCT 1947 AAC - MAIL BRANCH see P 94846 Commanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright Field, Ohio (Attention: T-2) 1. A representative of this headquarters has contacted Lt. Colonel Herbert C. Cee concerning Mrs. Merchant's theory on the flying dises, as expressed to General Brentnall. 2. It is recommended that no action be taken to interrogate Mrs. Merchant and that this case be closed. BY ORDER OF THE SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE: Incls - n/c HQ AAF 8 8 OCT 1947 AAC - MAIL BRANCH see P 94846 DOUGLASS W. EISEMAN Lt. Colonel, Air Corps USAF Executive, Air Intel, Requirements Division Office of Ass't Chief of Air Staff-2 CONFIDENTIAL RESTRICTED AFOIR CO AFOIR Col Jader 3rd. Freeman Brig. Gen. USAF SCOTT BARRETT OFFICE SYMBOL SIGNATURE OF RESPONSIBLE OFFICER INTERNAL OFFICE COORDINATION 0009 Phinima 16-29242-1 U. S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE CONFIDENTIAL Headquarters AIR MATERIEL COMMAND TSNAD-2B TSNAD-2B/ACL/amc Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio SUBJECT: "Flying Discs" 13 Oct 1947 TO: Chief of Staff United States Air Force Washington 25, D. C. ATTN: AC/AS-2 Lt Col George Garrett 1. Attached copies of communications are self-explanatory and indicate action taken to obtain additional information regarding subject. Assistance shown from Lt Col Herbert C. Gee was with reference to the social standing and character of Mrs. Merchant to determine justification for further investigation of her theories. 2. In view of Lt Col Gee's transfer to Washington, D. C., it is suggested that a representative from Headquarters, AC/AS-2 con- tact and interview him. 3. General Brentnall stated that Mrs. Merchant was extremely talkative and seemed quite intent on promoting a personal enterprise instead of cooperating to